No wonder Trump is afraid — a
debate with Bernie Sanders would show who’s really on the side of working
people.
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/05/trump-sanders-debate-populism-kimmel/
Last week, Donald Trump told
late-night television host Jimmy Kimmel that he would debate Bernie Sanders, so
long as ABC agreed to make a hefty donation to charity. It was a joke, but the
Sanders campaign responded seriously — bring it on.
Less than a full day after
Sanders accepted his
challenge, Trump announced
he wouldn’t take part. I don’t debate losers, Trump explained.
The prospect of a
Trump-Sanders debate slipped away, at least for the time being. But in the
twenty-four hours when it seemed a possibility, people of all political stripes
understood that pitting the two anti-establishment candidates against one
another would be a significant political event.
Granted, some liberal
commentators were quick to dismiss the proposed debate as nothing more than a
distraction. Of course, this objection fits their pattern
of painting Sanders’s continued participation in the Democratic race as a
irresponsible breach of party etiquette, potentially destructive to Hillary
Clinton’s chances in the general election.
But the country needs a
Trump-Sanders debate, if only to show the increasingly out-of-touch punditry
what most ordinary voters already know — the two candidates may rail against
the same broken system, but they’re not “making the same pitch,” as the Washington
Post claims.
A huge chasm separates Trump’s politics from Sanders’s.
Still, many in the
mainstream media are fascinated with the supposed similarities between the two candidates — as if
there is any equivalence between a xenophobic billionaire with powerful
friends and a committed socialist whose grassroots campaign is funded by
small donors.
Many commentators would have
us believe that Trump and Sanders are two sides of the same coin, with
mirror-image policy positions and a common voter base that is invariably white,
male, and pissed-off.
Of course, a quick look at the
demographics casts doubt on that line. Despite the media’s best efforts to
paint Sanders supporters as spoiled, affluent white men — clinging desperately
to their social status — the numbers just don’t add up.
In fact, it seems clear that
the best indicator for Sanders support is age — Sanders enjoys overwhelming
support from people under thirty-five, regardless as to race
and gender.
Trump’s base, meanwhile,
actually is almost entirely white — not too surprising for someone who openly
calls for the deportation of Muslims and Mexicans while accepting support from an openly white supremacist “super
PAC.” And Trump supporters are older.
Back in September — when the candidate overtook his Republican
challengers for the first time — about half of his supporters were between
between forty-five and sixty-four, and another 34 percent were sixty-five and
up. Less than 3 percent were under thirty.
Despite the liberal insistence
that Trump draws his support exclusively from poor whites — who liberals and conservatives
alike would just as soon exclude
from American politics altogether — the median income of Trump supporters is actually $73,000 a
year, well above the national median of $51,000. It’s also higher than the
median income of Sanders supporters, which hovers around $60,000.
But while reports claiming
some equivalency between the two are misguided, it is true that Trump and
Sanders supporters have at least one thing in common — they have no confidence
in the American political system as it’s currently constituted, and they’re
urgently demanding change.
That’s why a Trump-Sanders
debate is so important.
This election season has
activated a sprawling constituency of disaffected citizens — a bloc of voters
who see the ideal of American prosperity as an unattainable fantasy and the
current political system as an intolerable outrage. Two candidates are speaking
to this mass dissatisfaction, and winning tremendous popular support in the
process — but only one of them has a vision worth defending.
Perhaps picking up on the
swelling disaffection of the electorate, pundits have stoked fears that Sanders
supporters are easy marks for Trump — or vice versa — despite the utter lack of substantive
political similarities between the two candidates.
Elites’ control over the
limits of political legitimacy is slipping — and they seem to know it.
The Sanders defector — that hypothetical Bernie supporter sure to cast an anti-Hillary
protest vote for Trump come November — seems poised to replace the “Bernie Bro”
as the media’s favored anti-Sanders strawman.
But it’s true that for
down-and-out workers in the post-2008 economy, the alternatives on offer are
far and few between — and many people, feeling left out of the American dream,
are desperate for an alternative.
A recent New York Times article from Wilkes County, North Carolina — one of the
counties hardest hit by the recession, where median household income fell more
than 30 percent between 2000 and 2014 — made the stakes clear. In Wilkes
County, which is 93 percent white and at least 23 percent poor, some voters
support Trump and some support Sanders, but everyone seems to agree that the
American dream is a bust and political change long overdue.
Even the candidates themselves
have recognized that a common sense of dissatisfaction motivates their separate
bases. Each candidate has claimed to be optimistic about peeling supporters
away from the other — not because their political visions are so similar, but
precisely because they’re so different.
For his part, Sanders has been
saying since as early as December that many Trump voters
are “working-class people” with “legitimate” anxieties and frustrations.
He defended the dignity of
Trump’s working-class supporters while ruthlessly criticizing the candidate’s
politics, saying “What Trump has done with some success is taken that anger,
taken those fears, which are legitimate, and converted them into anger against
Mexicans, anger against Muslims.”
Recently Trump has joined in, taking a pass at Sanders
supporters while talking to the Fox News Channel’s Sean Hannity earlier this
month — “I think a lot of the young people that are with Bernie Sanders are
going to come over to my side because they want jobs.”
Trump claims to know what
specific issue will win them over — “Bernie Sanders and I agree on one thing,”
he said. “Trade.” But Bernie’s a socialist and Trump an entrepreneur — “the
difference is, I’ll make great deals out of it,” said Trump. “I mean, he’s a
socialist. He doesn’t know what to do.”
But Trump’s assertion that he
and Sanders have much in common when it comes to trade is hardly true. While
their platforms may contain some superficial similarities regarding trade
policies, Sanders and Trump propose radically different economic visions.
For one thing, Trump wants a lower minimum wage. Sanders wants wages to be
higher.
Sanders imagines a national
government that can impose steep taxes on the wealthiest members of society,
redistributing the national wealth to ordinary wage-earners in the form of
social goods, like single-payer health care and free higher education.
Trump may drone on about how
everybody should pay their fair share, but what he really wants is a national
government that will protect American corporations from foreign competitors —
especially the Chinese — while allowing them to squeeze as much work out of
their employees for as little as possible.
Sure, Trump wants to keep
working-class jobs in America. But he also wants to make sure that employing
American workers isn’t too costly compared to the poorly regulated labor
markets in the Global South.
Trump doesn’t want good,
stable jobs for American workers — his desire for depressed wages is proof
enough of that, as is his brutal repression of a union drive at his Las Vegas hotel.
He just wants cheap downhome labor for the American billionaire class.
Whether the upstart democratic
socialist from Vermont gets to face Trump in the general election remains to be
seen — but it’s increasingly unlikely. Regardless, we should fight to put a
Trump-Sanders debate back on the political agenda.
The country deserves the
chance to watch the two anti-establishment candidates go head-to-head — and see
for themselves that while Sanders offers the promise of a prosperous, equitable
future, Trump offers nothing but hot air and bigotry.
Millions of working-class
Americans — battered by a fundamentally unequal economic system and alienated
from conventional politics — deserve to see Sanders expose Trump’s
hypocrisy for themselves.
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Jonah Walters is a researcher
at Jacobin and a graduate student in geography at Rutgers University.
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